Createspace.com Helps OriginalPoetry.com

OK This idea will benefit everyone.
Ok look on your profiles the space thats open below your friends.
That space is wasted, Papa can fix that by a tool where you can add book covers, and links to books on Amazon, or Lulu.com
OP-will set up an affliation account with amazon, and lulu so OP gets paid commision from everybook sale from a click through, because after this idea I am going to tell you it will pay for help for Papa, and it will not conflict with the OP book royalties. And OP can also do charity donations more, and they can afford a marketing team this way to help all of us.

All poets will have books on thier profiles.
Yours, your friends,and any other books.
Your friends can add yours as well

Create space, will see we have 400, 000 poets that want to create a book, but they dont know how, so createspace will come to OP and have two experts in PDF making, and cover making, one for the day shift and one for the night.
Createspace can set up a profile, and they will have a section in the thread, Call'd Creating Books with Createspace.com, something like that, then the two createspace employess can school, and teach us, all to know about book making, they also can help each poet in pms, and so forth
also in the thread for that section each Poet can set up there own thread for their book process, in a step by step thing.

We have so many poets here, and they all want to be in a book.
This will also give no reason why we all cant get books to the world, and Poets have no reason to complain, Poets can even co-publish as well.

Createspace can help all of us, step by step, in a book format, e-book format, and kindle, they have book cover designers, and they have people there that will compete to do your cover.



So tell us what you think aboutr having a professional team from createspace
coming to OP, and helping you launch your book to the world???

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@Artie - 20 - 50, mostly in the mid 20s. I think it was Dah's that touched 50.

WOW - so this is what all the hooplah is about?
20 something people who like a poem have caused this much problems?

LOL

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Papa this site runs fine, and there is a large percentage of people that are perfectly happy here (I am one of them), so don't take any of these complaints to heart.

From what I've seen so far, the main complaints are;

-the contest is run by cliques.
if it only takes 20-30 votes to win, then the clique theory is is ''BS''

-the ''undesirables'' are winning, and the self proclaimed ''poet Gods'' aren't.
I think these people who aren't happy need to just get more proactive.

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Im on Poetry Im all Bleep'd Up

So if promoting Poems will, so will promoting ideas, so here we go

Createspace.com Helps OriginalPoetry.com

OK This idea will benefit everyone.
Ok look on your profiles the space thats open below your friends.
That space is wasted, Papa can fix that by a tool where you can add book covers, and links to books on Amazon, or Lulu.com
OP-will set up an affliation account with amazon, and lulu so OP gets paid commision from everybook sale from a click through, because after this idea I am going to tell you it will pay for help for Papa, and it will not conflict with the OP book royalties. And OP can also do charity donations more, and they can afford a marketing team this way to help all of us.

All poets will have books on thier profiles.
Yours, your friends,and any other books.
Your friends can add yours as well

Create space, will see we have 400, 000 poets that want to create a book, but they dont know how, so createspace will come to OP and have two experts in PDF making, and cover making, one for the day shift and one for the night.
Createspace can set up a profile, and they will have a section in the thread, Call'd Creating Books with Createspace.com, something like that, then the two createspace employess can school, and teach us, all to know about book making, they also can help each poet in pms, and so forth
also in the thread for that section each Poet can set up there own thread for their book process, in a step by step thing.

We have so many poets here, and they all want to be in a book.
This will also give no reason why we all cant get books to the world, and Poets have no reason to complain, Poets can even co-publish as well.

Createspace can help all of us, step by step, in a book format, e-book format, and kindle, they have book cover designers, and they have people there that will compete to do your cover.



So tell us what you think about having a professional team from createspace
coming to OP, and helping you launch your book to the world???

Last edited by WordSlinger 12-23-2010 at 01:50:12 PM

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That's an interesting idea

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At the specific request of one of OP's most respected contributors, I have been asked to express my opinion of this "thread." I have never made a secret of my opinion regarding the contest. But if there is anyone who really values my opinion enough to request its addition to this Forum, I will repeat it here and now: I am opposed to any contest that pits one poem/one poet against another. I think it should be abolished altogether, although I see no reason why certain poems shouldn't be "recommended" or "commended" on a weekly basis. But to declare this one or that one "THE WINNER" is a counter productive mechanism. I do not enter my pieces in the contest (oh yeah, I know, there was one exception), and do not plan to do so in the future.
I'm sorry to see another talented writer leave this site. And please, please, spare me the vitriol I've just read from a few who feel compelled to defend their positions by calling names and spewing insults that really have no bearing. I know each is entitled to one's opinion, but it seems when one expresses an opinion that does not agree with others' he/she should not be pelted with such blows. Hey, it's CHRISTMAS!!! for god's sake! Surely, we all have enough charity in our hearts to refrain from making hurtful remarks.
Richard Salassi

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Ask any questions you all have, me and Papa will answer them the best we can,
and Papa when the times is right, can get CreateSpace to answer the questions, this is your time to shine, because believe me CreateSpace can flip your world, and
with the Affilaition program, OP, and Papa can afford to create a Marketing team.

You are on the way to creating the Great 21st Century Poetic Wheel..

I spoke, no pun intended

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Wordslinger- the great poetic wheels have long been spinning, the challenge is getting them to spin in the same direction at the same time with a common goal and united as once voice it can be done. Once the waggon gets over the hump and starts gaining momentum as itr rolls down the hill, watch out, we can blow the doors off this thing!!! The key part is getting the waggon over the hump, it takes more than one person, but together we can get the job done. I love the idea of the createspace affliliation, I think it can deffintely open the doors to the possibility of change. Some poets wonder why bother to be published, what does it matter??? It matters, poetry has long been an avenue for social change. The poets of old knew this, they were not legends just because they knew how to fit a bunch of words into a well constructed box that ryhmes. They became legends because they were dreamers, visionaries, idea men, philosophers, thinkers, they help to ignite a spark of social change. This change can only occur if there are people willing to stepup and be heard, thier voices to be spoken, thier ideas to be enlightened into action. Poetry is an avenue for people to gain perspective in the world they live, to expand thier limited horizons. When you open the door to one's inner mind, emotions, and spirit, you allow a person thew ability to really grow, and with growth comes real change. Sometimes the biggest change comes from the smallest of places. So lets support OP, wordslingger, the God father of OP- PAPA, and the owners of OP, and the rest of the OP community in uniting as one voice that can be heard for generations to come. It all starts here, now, today... Speak up and let your voice be heard! Purity of the soul, journey well!!! with grace and humility ANGEL

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I will play bumper cars as often as needed so if you see no posts by me you'll know why.

I just realized today is my second year here an anniversary. lol

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I, too, was asked for my input on this thread and I will give it. First the contest; it is nice to have a chance to be in an anthology or to be selected for publication and a wider readership; we write to be read and if you want popularity you need to be widely read. As to how you select a “winner” this is solely up to the owners of the site and their decision but leave a site with only 13 friends and then to complain is rude and ignorant. I don’t know Ed nor have I read his poetry and I cannot read 40 plus thousand poets even if I wish to, with all honesty.

If you are writing to win contests then you got you head screwed on backwards and if you can’t accept rejection you have no business being a writer for the comments on here are nothing like the comments you will receive from an agent or editor, so get use to it; it is part of the publishing business. If you want a member to be a mentor then ask them for it and most will help out but be able to take a critique of your work and don’t take it personally and then go complaining to everyone, “The sky if fall; this person dared to critique my writing.” The greatest rejection is if no one buys your books and without promotion you will fail in sales. Promotion of your book is 99.9 percent of publishing, no advertiser and it is a waste of time and effort for you can be the best writer in the word and still fail without promoters.

It is not easy to publish and it should never be the case. It is very hard work and if you want to just have a book in your library and say to your friends, children and grand children I wrote this; then so be it. If you want to be one of the very best there are not short cuts and only a few make it, after all you can’t have 40,000 plus best sellers at once, can you?

If you want to publish then buy the Poet’s Market and find yourself an agent. If the agent like your work, big if, the he or she will find you a publisher and their editor then will tell you how much you really suck or shine (the two esses every writer should know). This is all free and the only way to make money or a name in the publishing world. So, in summary it is all the effort you want to put into it. If you think it is fine and dandy not to have a promoter then “fine and dandy” but you will not make it promoting yourself; you need some else to toot your horn for you and be your herald.

Word of mouth is still the best promoter and this site offers a chance to get you poems read, thank you Papa and all involved for that. There is an old saying, “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you,” and I can’t think of a more appropriate place for that ditty then in this thread. Remember, no short cuts, no magic wand only long hard work!
Happy Holidays to all, of all faiths or non-faith. Temper all with love, peace and freedom, Olan.

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In private conversations the theme vanity appears:

Now the vanity thing, I have heard that from many, I cant even get poets here from youtube because of that, but my self cant understand that concept, I do but not in modern terms.
I believe in availablity, I have a book from 1945, from a similar deal, but from word of mouth back then through schools and newspapers, The publishing company is unknown, and so are the poets, but if they didnt put that book together, I would not own it today.
So That is what I mean be being availability, in print, so one day the world has a book of a poems from poets in era. A best seller our not.
And another good reason is we have the chance to take poetry and help others that have needs, so if those two reasons do not erase the vanity issue, then
it's an deflated ball.

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Vanity is also a form of fear.

Suffering is necessary to produce great philosophy or poetry.
It is necessary, in other words, for creativity.
Poetry is a kind of innate drive that seizes a human being and makes a poet its instrument. The poet is not a person endowed with free will who seeks their own ends, but one who allows poetry to realize its purposes through the poet." The Poet as a human being has a free will, of course, but
as a Poet, the Poet is "man" in a higher sense--the Poet is "collective,"
a vehicle and molder of the unconscious psychic life of mankind.
That is the Poets office, and it is sometimes so heavy a burden that the Poet is
fated to sacrifice happiness and everything that makes life worth .

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And, hopefully with that thought, ThoughtCaster, we can put this thread,
finally, to bed........................[[ :+)

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No Excuses, No Regrets.Pick Up The Pace

lol, ya..........................



G this is the video for you pal....

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