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RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by ImStillHere Originally Posted by WordSlinger No Kiddo 25 to 35 genres, poems are unlimted, go to the school of poetry search for Ninja Village.... Oh lol that makes sense... i guess... but how would you publish them? This is an OP.com site this discussion is about a better contest. And as you can see we vets here agree with the complaints. now to answer your question is OP needs to publish by- buying a print plant,( or sub contract to small ones) or through createspace.com. or lulu.com but here's the thing we all want hand held books right?? and the way I was saying is there are way to many Poets here that have poems for one contest. Thats why there is conflict. let me ask you Audrey, do you think there needs to be a button on a poem that says truely honestly says this poems needs published, Would you click it and truely believe that this poem is outstanding. then that poem has been sent to a second wave judges would you think that maybe, because us elders here are trying, to make a smile for all... Last edited by WordSlinger 12-21-2010 at 09:12:03 PM |
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RE: Adios Amigo'sWould just one entry a week be better? Some people pour their guts out with the excitement of a contest then leave before finding there is a real community here. k |
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RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by gogant ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What OP should do is……make all the ones who entered the weekly contest and didn't win, come back and repost their poems that didn't win, and repeat as often as needed to secure a winning poem…….even if it takes the next ten years….......... ~~ Season's Best ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wordslinger posted: lol. we are truly going to have to find outside poets, outside publishers outside marketiers, and outside idea gatherers to scan this site, because we truly, as a website are the grandest tractor plowing the field, but we are poets, Papa is just a webmaster, and the owners well that started something obviously they had no clue how to handle this, like I said 1999 it would take ten years to have a sight like this, and now I say it will take 10 more to spawn all of us, thank God, Papa knows how to save all of our BS, Happy Holdays...... G that option is always available always after the seventh day, but you have to wait 8 to see who wins so enter it. G we have the tools, to get us all publish'd we just dont have the man power to pull it off.. seriously we need to look outside for help |
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RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by kdarcy Would just one entry a week be better? Some people pour their guts out with the excitement of a contest then leave before finding there is a real community here. k  Sweet Comment KD, that;s right we are trying, you have always been here when you can, so many dont realize what you said. |
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RE: Adios Amigo'sI want to say this honestly I never looked at the contest as a popularity contest, |
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RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by gogant Papa, have you settled on anything yet ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Not yet. Getting there tho, so keep the discussion going. Before we change anything, we'll present it to the community for review. -Papa Paczki |
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by WordSlinger Originally Posted by ImStillHere Originally Posted by WordSlinger No Kiddo 25 to 35 genres, poems are unlimted, go to the school of poetry search for Ninja Village.... Oh lol that makes sense... i guess... but how would you publish them? This is an OP.com site this discussion is about a better contest. And as you can see we vets here agree with the complaints. now to answer your question is OP needs to publish by- buying a print plant,( or sub contract to small ones) or through createspace.com. or lulu.com but here's the thing we all want hand held books right?? and the way I was saying is there are way to many Poets here that have poems for one contest. Thats why there is conflict. let me ask you Audrey, do you think there needs to be a button on a poem that says truely honestly says this poems needs published, Would you click it and truely believe that this poem is outstanding. then that poem has been sent to a second wave judges would you think that maybe, because us elders here are trying, to make a smile for all... Uhm i dont believe you actually asked me a question... But yes there is a bit of a conflict with it. not everyone can look at one poem and say YES THIS IS OUTSTANDING! there will be people that think its just horrible. if such a button did exist? i dont know. it would have to be unavaiable to the actual writer of the peom of course... But i dont know. I dont know a lot about anything actually. |
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RE: Adios Amigo'sIs he gone yet? |
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by WordSlinger let me ask you Audrey, do you think there needs to be a button on a poem that says truely honestly says this poems needs published, Would you click it and truely believe that this poem is outstanding. then that poem has been sent to a second wave judges would you think that maybe, because us elders here are trying, to make a smile for all... I wonder about the integrity of such button tho.... -Papa Paczki |
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RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: yes |
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by papapaczki Originally Posted by WordSlinger let me ask you Audrey, do you think there needs to be a button on a poem that says truely honestly says this poems needs published, Would you click it and truely believe that this poem is outstanding. then that poem has been sent to a second wave judges would you think that maybe, because us elders here are trying, to make a smile for all... I wonder about the integrity of such button tho.... -Papa Paczki I have the same wonder as papa |
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Originally Posted by kdarcy Would just one entry a week be better? Some people pour their guts out with the excitement of a contest then leave before finding there is a real community here. k |
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RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by thecross Originally Posted by WordSlinger We are not against this man, or any one, What did you tell me my friend if I leave they win, and with that notion poetry isn't a game it's a life style. I can give you all advice in ten years come back, see what the real deal is here, or the next vamp'd site spawn'd from this. believe that.... This site treats it like a game John there are posts in the forum encouraging popularity contests over the written word as I've stated from day one a new system needs to be brought into the equation here this site can't grow the way your visions see it growing with it being like this it would be a joke and very hard to take seriously I told you not to give up because you are my friend and I will not let you drown alone here I will drown with you but I also understand the people that choose to leave because at times things about this site are outright insulting &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& I think we need a memorandum outlining clearly "what are outright insulting" ,in order to examine and rectify "what are downright insulting, To hint "in vacuo" that "things about the site are outright insulting" constitutes a "non prosequi" which helps none of us. Disaffection needs to be properly aired, by those who are disillusioned , frustrated or disa-satisfied. Secession might have helped to build the USA, I don't see how it can help the OP site. . Last edited by cousinsoren 12-22-2010 at 08:53:53 PM |
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RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by thecross Originally Posted by WordSlinger We are not against this man, or any one, What did you tell me my friend if I leave they win, and with that notion poetry isn't a game it's a life style. I can give you all advice in ten years come back, see what the real deal is here, or the next vamp'd site spawn'd from this. believe that.... This site treats it like a game John there are posts in the forum encouraging popularity contests over the written word as I've stated from day one a new system needs to be brought into the equation here this site can't grow the way your visions see it growing with it being like this it would be a joke and very hard to take seriously I told you not to give up because you are my friend and I will not let you drown alone here I will drown with you but I also understand the people that choose to leave because at times things about this site are outright insulting &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& I think we need a memorandum outlining clearly "what are outright insulting" ,in order to examine and rectify "what are downright insulting |
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RE: Adios Amigo'sI have a couple of ideas to mend this site. I will discuss this with Papa after the Holidays, lets all just enjoy the poetry here, and the Holidays. |
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by cousinsoren Originally Posted by thecross Originally Posted by WordSlinger We are not against this man, or any one, What did you tell me my friend if I leave they win, and with that notion poetry isn't a game it's a life style. I can give you all advice in ten years come back, see what the real deal is here, or the next vamp'd site spawn'd from this. believe that.... This site treats it like a game John there are posts in the forum encouraging popularity contests over the written word as I've stated from day one a new system needs to be brought into the equation here this site can't grow the way your visions see it growing with it being like this it would be a joke and very hard to take seriously I told you not to give up because you are my friend and I will not let you drown alone here I will drown with you but I also understand the people that choose to leave because at times things about this site are outright insulting &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& I think we need a memorandum outlining clearly "what are outright insulting" ,in order to examine and rectify "what are downright insulting No you don't cousin because if you read my posts all along I have clearly stated what is insulting and what people find offensive as they leave so I am your memorandum read and follow along and lets play connect the dots!!!!!!!!!!! |
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RE: Adios Amigo'sPapa, has my proposal a website uplift. I wont post it, unless he wants me to, |
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RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by WordSlinger Papa, has my proposal a website uplift. I wont post it, unless he wants me to, Or he can, if he feels it is fitting, but I a sure you, it is a dandy. But you will all have to work for it, so there wil be no way to complain..... These are not the days of Elvis Presley, where every thing is handed to us. Are you referring to the 3D world idea? Yah, its definitely a dandy. Maybe in the future. Its a bit beyond my skill set at the moment. I actually toyed with the idea for a 3D chat with avatars and the whole get up. Kind of like you see on Xbox Live and the Wii. Doing just a 3D chat w/o avatar customization might be doable in the future sometime. But we'll have to see. That's complex stuff. -Papa Paczki |
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RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by WordSlinger But here is Hamptons idea: Do away with the single winner per week concept. Change to a concept of posting a list of the poems that had a minimum of 15 comments (or there abouts) and a perfect score of 10. Call the weekly contest. "This Week's Poems of Highest Merit". The list could contain10 poems or 100 poems. This way recognition is spread across a broader bass of poets each week and you don't have to worry about picking "One Poem" and "One Poem only. More recognition means higher member satisfaction. Higher satisfaction means less complaining. The one winner per week approach with 30,000 to 40,000 poets is always going to be a problem regardless of what type of system you employ for choosing winners. No one has commented on Hamptons idea?????? |
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RE: RE: RE: Adios Amigo'sQuote: Originally Posted by WordSlinger Originally Posted by WordSlinger But here is Hamptons idea: Do away with the single winner per week concept. Change to a concept of posting a list of the poems that had a minimum of 15 comments (or there abouts) and a perfect score of 10. Call the weekly contest. "This Week's Poems of Highest Merit". The list could contain10 poems or 100 poems. This way recognition is spread across a broader bass of poets each week and you don't have to worry about picking "One Poem" and "One Poem only. More recognition means higher member satisfaction. Higher satisfaction means less complaining. The one winner per week approach with 30,000 to 40,000 poets is always going to be a problem regardless of what type of system you employ for choosing winners. No one has commented on Hamptons idea?????? I personally thought he had a good vision of this. I have had it in the back of mind something similar, but I guess I never thought about how big the site has become and how little winners there are in comparison. He's absolutely right, its going to be a problem, and is in some ways. It gets people going. Perhaps its time for change. Or the end? The end doesn't have to mean no more contests of course. But maybe in this form. Thoughts? -Papa Paczki |
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RE: Adios Amigo'slol, ya that will be great, no the one where we have 24/7 book publishing support, with the Gods of Books these days/...................And Poets have their own book store, on their pages... Last edited by WordSlinger 12-23-2010 at 12:47:02 PM |
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RE: Adios Amigo'sthanks to all those who turned the opening negativity of this thread into a positve open discussion, here lies the power of postive thinking and brain storming. Nothing in this world is ever perfect and those who think that ideals can be reality are merely delusional. Compaining, bitching, whinning, does little if nothing but spread negativity like a wildfire, but positive open discussion and brain storming of ideas opens the doorway to the possibility of change through constructive, rather than destructive, thoughts. Here lies the true power of the poet, a true poet is much more than a writer that can rhyme with good meter, form, and flow. Poets of old were philosophers, men of ideas, visionaries, dreamers, and knew that through the power of the wirtten word and changing the perspectives of society, one could inspire real change to occur. They say poetry is a dead art, I believe this has occured because we have forgotten the awesome power of poetry and the great resonsibility that goes with it, as poets we have the ability to crack the doorway to endless possibilites. They say one man can't make a difference, but we are greater than the solice of one individual. Together as a commmunity of Poets we are create one voice that when united could be heard the world over, I think this is what made the old poets so great and legandary, and this is where we can ignite the flame and breath life back into the art of poetry. I think the POB decree says it well, we are the poets of blood, our pens bleed words, our hearts bleed emotions, and our souls bleed for a cause... Let us join together, united as one voice, and reclaim the essence of true poetry. Purity of the soul, journey well!!! with grace and humility ANGEL |
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RE: Adios Amigo'sHey Papa, is there any way you can tell us how many votes the last 10 winners had? |
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RE: RE: Adios Amigo's@Artie - 20 - 50, mostly in the mid 20s. I think it was Dah's that touched 50. |
A poem begins as a lump in the throat, a sense of wrong, a homesickness, a lovesickness. It finds the thought and the thought finds the words.
Robert Frost (1875-1963) American Poet.