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Adios Amigo's

12-29-2010 at 12:09:30 AM

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Asha and Olan......Aria had quoted a line from one of Word's posts and
was wondering if anybody could decipher what he meant by the line quoted.
I'm afraid I couldn't help her, maybe someone else, if not John himself.....

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12-29-2010 at 12:21:44 AM

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Sorry for the typo

this is what I posted:


"What bothers me here is that not one of you in this thread, has commented,

all of the other Poets poems, this tells me its personal, and not poetry.”


This what I mean


"What bothers me here is that not one of you in this thread, has commented,

on any of the other Poets poems that have posted here in this thread, this tells me its personal, and not poetry.”

Sorry, I slung the wrong sentence, my bad, confused


I just notice things.

And no post here is rubbish, it all has been published..

bye now

and keep up the posts, This thread I hope never gets deleted, wink
or shall I say posts can, come on...

Happy New Year..


12-29-2010 at 12:33:42 AM

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Thanks for clearing that up, John...........Hey, isn't there a poet with that
name, Upjohn ?

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12-29-2010 at 12:37:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gogant

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Thanks for clearing that up, John...........Hey, isn't there a poet with that
name, Upjohn ?

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lol something like that but I think its like

Smells like updog in here, Sup Dawg, you know the Truth, The Great Dog, that is a barking,

lol

Happy New Year G, and Congrads, smile

12-29-2010 at 12:38:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gogant

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Thanks for clearing that up, John...........Hey, isn't there a poet with that
name, Upjohn ?

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LOL.......you are too funny g...........giggles..........love asha

12-29-2010 at 12:43:13 AM

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Thanks guys.....and now, I'm outta here before I step in
something..................HAPPY NEW YEAR.....................

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12-29-2010 at 12:46:47 AM

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OK Papa-Pac Man, and to the great owners of OP.

I was informed that people like the idea, but since this thread started out negative,
most people think it all is, so to your best dicrection, take what is positive, and scan it clean of negative posts, or start it in the site improvement section.
Or just leave it.

but this truly is claiming something special..




12-29-2010 at 12:48:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Olan01

For those poet who have discovered a poet on the site they like and want to recommend them there is a thread, Buzzy Worthy set up for that purpose:

http://www.originalpoetry.com/forum/view/topic/topic_id/4347


Isn't Olan Precious, he is buzz worthy everyday, smile

Happy New Year Olan. :P

12-29-2010 at 02:49:14 AM

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I think that you John, Olan, Angel, Gogant and some of the others have managed to turn this thread into something positive........Expressing ideas to help the OP site is always a good thing and I know that there are many more of you who have some great ideas you would like to express. So why not speak out and lay them all out on the table. I know that surly at least one if not more of your ideas will become a reality that will benefit the whole OP family if we all can get together and help Papa and and the team get one of these ideals rolling. All they need is our support and a little help with the details........Papa and Pac=man are not going to change or add anything new to the site if they don't get enough input from the members of the site that agree on an idea that would benefit all if not a good majority of it's members....

We are all writers/poets here and what more would any of us wish for then to have are words that we have worked hard for printed in a book....Even if said book is one of just your own work and ends up setting on your own shelf.......Just that little bit to some poets would lift their spirits and make them feel as if all their hard work mattered and made it into print. And who knows one day years from now someone may discover that forgotten book and bring it out into the open as a lost piece of wonderful art and have it reprinted and become a part of history for many to enjoy as many of the ancient artists have been discovered and bought into the light of wonderful art........We are not the first writers/poets to go down this road struggling for years to be successful...........Rather you go out all on your own, team up with other writers, become a part of the OP Anthology or many other ways, what we do and write with our mighty pens is worth while and we will be the ones to record todays history in poetry for tomorrows readers to enjoy and be enlightened......Poets have always been the key players to mark history in a way that no history book could ever tell it.........

I went back and read some of the comments about videos posted in this thread and the three that I saw that John posted while some may think are beyond what this thread is about, after watching the videos I will give you my humble opinion.

All three of them have nothing in them but quotes from different things and movies and are so very much inspirational and if you actually listen to what is said how could you think that they weren't.........Inspiration no matter where it comes from, the sun shinning, a blue sky a song, whisper, dream or a quote such as in those videos is always worth while to a poet.........Now tell me that you do not believe in that.........If you are a poet I know you do for what would we write if we were not inspired by one thing or the other............

Ok my darlings I have gotten out of bed twice thinking about the comments on this thread these last few hours so I said my peace and how I feel, I love you all dearly for all that you do, you are all great in my book, but now it is time for me to rest as it has been a long day for me and tomorrow I will go back to working on the SnowPoets book as that is what I need to be doing and not worrying about how this thread started only how it will end..............Peace, light and love to all my OP family and I am wishing you all a very HAPPY NEW YEARsmilewinksmirkrolleyesrolleyestongue laughtongue rolleyetongue winkred facered facered facekisskisskisscool smirkcool smirk

12-30-2010 at 02:59:01 PM

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John has asked me if I would like to chime in on this thread. Not a bad idea - - not at all because I’m intrigued by the sight of an open wound or that I‘d like to publically polarize my thought process by taking sides. For me, the veneration of all things truthful is a major player in the aspirational part of life. Yet I still love fantasy because dreams are fun and energizing. What to write about as a writer if not the state of possibility? Delve into quantum physics in the search for what makes up truth and there are many more questions to play with then we’ve got time to play.
I CAN perceive the alleged imbalance between the worth of any creative piece on this sight and the appearant need to showcase it as a contest winner. The cop out would lie in saying it’s simply subjective. Yet were missing the point if “ being there” for others is not seen as from the fabric of the human blueprint.
[And I believe it is.]
Can anyone discount the cathartic benefits of writing poetry? It’s important right there if for nothing else. It’s journaling – it’s working out things of growth in ourselves. It’s the need to be heard and listened to. OK … it’s a stretch but - a hospital is more of an essential service than a museum. But here we have community. This is good! The one thing (as a personal note) we have some intelligent folks here to engage in stimulating conversation in the threads - if we gets the time I mean.
Grace and peace is what’s called for at the end of the day. We give – then we receive . It’s in the book! Health be to us all.
grin

12-30-2010 at 03:07:58 PM

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Well said, This thread needs to rest a bit, for many grow tired and will rest comment for the moment. Certain others would go out of their way to keep it going in an up and down way. New Years wishes to all k cool smile

12-30-2010 at 03:09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Edwinmeyer

Yes...(particularly "dah") the site is "just fine" Although you try to insult myself and my attempt to create a more succeptable environment. Instead of helping, you chose to "bash" anyone and their comments which do not meet your offensive agenda.
I'LL BE HONEST, i HAVE READ YOUR "POETRY"(SORRY FOR THE CAPS), and some of it is pretty good, though most of it seems more essay than poetry.
I however write quite good POETRY,( yes even humility on my behalf recognizes this). which is what this site purports to be for.
I have nothing against essays, and find them in many cases to be quite stimulating, though to call them "poetry" is an abomination to the art.
I have chosen to remain quiet and leave with my dignity intact, but comments like yours drive me to levels of anger to which I cannot remain silent.
Sure you claim to have had your work "published", but anyone with a credit card and the ability to use Google, can have their work published.
This in no way makes your efforts relevent in this field.
My apologies to all for taking this negative turn, but I cannot stand idly by and watch someone of this ilk pretend to be "holier than thou"


Ed Whiner,

Are you still here? I thought you had announced in a BIG WAY that you were leaving after bashing this wonderful site with your "holier than thou" first post on this thread.

And just to educate your severe ignorance: I have never "flashed my credit card" to get published—ask my publisher: www.mystillpoint.net.

I look at your age (47) and your pre-school-like whining and I ask myself:
Are you for real?

If you can't be embarrassed for your self then I will be embarrassed
for youred face

Happy Twenty 11,
dahkiss

12-30-2010 at 03:20:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NevillePark

Neville, this is brilliant metaphor((it’s a stretch but - a hospital is more of an essential service than a museum.)) As I said in my Poem -Poetic Cargo and the Heroes of Writen Verse, this web site is pregnant, and the baby is kicking, she wants to be born, and yes a healthy baby she will be, so what shall we name her? Beautifire perhaps, lol grin, Leroy is working on the extension of the seats on this wagon, but its all wood, no cushions, and canopy yet, but its a beautiful day, hear the saw???
yes Happy New year to you all

12-30-2010 at 03:44:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aria

The videos annoy me as much as our favorite Cousin’s repeat forum postings. If this site is about writing original poetry then why post videos of someone else’s performance? Do your own video for pete’s sake and I’ll watch it but why repost a youtube video when we can go to youtube and watch it there


Bravo! This is something that has been on my mind for awhile now. Yes! Stop posting videos on this poetry site unless it's you reading your poems.

This site is looking like a used video store instead of a contemporary poetry site.

12-30-2010 at 03:51:59 PM

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lol OK, I will type them out scene for scene,word by word, okie dokey, or soon make ones for you ok.
what ever gets the point across, but shall I find one that fits the up, I will post it, believe that..

Oren needs a new keyboard can anyone buy him one, lol

wink

Last edited by WordSlinger 12-30-2010 at 03:55:46 PM

12-30-2010 at 04:13:15 PM

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Definiton of poetry by the great modern poet, Steve Wallace, Olan

Supreme Fiction by: Steven Wallace


Poetry is the supreme Fiction, madame.
Take the moral law and make a nave of it
And from the nave build haunted heaven. Thus,
The conscience is converted into palms
Like windy citherns, hankering for hymns.
We agree in principle. That’s clear. But take
The opposing law and make a peristyle,
And from the peristyle project a masque
Beyond the planets. Thus, our bawdiness,
Unpurged by epitaph, indulged at last,
Is equally converted into palms,
Squiggling like saxophones. And palm for palm,
Madame, we are where we began.

12-30-2010 at 06:00:52 PM

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Bahaha so i dont visit this Thread in what? 3 days? and its explodes smile

@Ed: uhm, excuse me, but you left once, you are done. Dont come back and start stuff again, because I will send you a very strongly worded letter, Deary. =.= and i am not someone you can bash on. Unlike you, I believe there is more to poetry than meets the eye. what seems like "essays" to you, is, in fact, considered poetry by others... or else it wouldnt be here. You can sit on your high horse all you want, but there is always going to be someone sitting a little higher, someone who knows the meaning of humility and self-preservation. The fact that you came back just killed off any and all meaning of your departure. You have nothing here now... You may decide to say you are sorry, but really... Ugh. Congrats, Ed. smile you are now one of the few people who have angered me.


@Aria: yeah ive noticed that too... why Do people put up videos? maybe to help the reader understand the poem better?


@John: Haha i do believe we have a lot of things to discuss over this new year.


@ EVERYONE ELSE!: smile i hope you all had a merry Christmas, Hanukka, Quanza, Etc.... and that you all have a very very very happy New Year!

12-30-2010 at 07:11:15 PM

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Hey......I have been saying the same thing as Dah and Aria say here.
Why do we need links to YouTube ? Like I said....if anything, we should
go to their site and send all their fans to our site. And, I have faith that
Cousin will find a way to reduce the "SUBMIT, SUBMIT, SUBMITs."
But, hey, we all love ya, cousin.........so, please don't do a "Ed Thing" on
Original Poetry..........and that goes for you cat, too.....
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Originally Posted by dahlusion

Originally Posted by Aria

The videos annoy me as much as our favorite Cousin’s repeat forum postings. If this site is about writing original poetry then why post videos of someone else’s performance? Do your own video for pete’s sake and I’ll watch it but why repost a youtube video when we can go to youtube and watch it there


Bravo! This is something that has been on my mind for awhile now. Yes! Stop posting videos on this poetry site unless it's you reading your poems.

This site is looking like a used video store instead of a contemporary poetry site.

12-30-2010 at 07:21:34 PM

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Your point has been made about the videos, and it is very understandable, very.
So if you are going to use my positive videos, and my positive posts, as an example
for the posting of videos, that have drove you crazy any where else in the forum go right ahead, it just truly shows the nature here,

I'll be a punching bag example, sure go right ahead, but maybe you should back track to the ones that have upset you and ask them to erase, them, I will not, shall not get this thread off track,
Your point about the videos are made, so folks make your own,
and keep them on your page,

Like I said I will not let this get all fuzzy.
I was born into confusion, and I found my way out
Im very good at it, believe that..

12-30-2010 at 07:48:54 PM

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I posted a poem that isn't in the contest, or it doesn't have a rating system on
It is a poem about the pregnancy of this website, do you care to take a read.
my Amigo's and Amiga's, it is New Year, maybe she'll be our New Year's baby.

http://www.originalpoetry.com/poetic-cargo-and-heroes-of-the-written-v

awe, that would be so nice..

WS

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01-03-2011 at 02:44:58 AM

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Originally Posted by edwinmeyer1963

My apologies If I offend anyone, But I will no longer be able to participate in this site.
While I have met a myraid of wonderful people here, I cannot ,in good concience, remain a member.
Without pointing any proverbial "fingers", the quite obviously biased choice of winning "poetry" since my joining, has grated too heavilly against my nerves.

While many ,if not all ,of the winning entries may express depth of thought, I cannot condone the calling of them "poetry", and certainly not of a "winning" calibre.
Many of you can and will of course revel in the bashing of my comments and current decision, but none of you can legitimately assert that my own work is anything less than (at a minimum), well written.
The choice of many of the winning entries is blatantly a "lie" and your support of these entries, along with your unfounded praise, in no way is helping the writers better their chosen craft. Honesty ,though at times hurtfull, at least is an effort to HELP struggling writers improve their craft.
May you ALL have a great Christmas season, and I truely hope that one day all of your thoughts will be filled with happiness and well versed passion.
Ed



Sometimes if we listen, we can learn. In every situation, let us pick out the good for our learning. Some of what is said above may have some credibility. I am not here to judge anyone. I understand this is not a poetry school online, just a medium of expression. It would however be good to constructively criticize someone and let them learn, than to tell them that a work shabbily done is beautiful work. I guess however, that we see differently in each poem. Thanks

The Poemeater.

01-03-2011 at 02:58:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WordSlinger

Sorry for the typo

this is what I posted:


"What bothers me here is that not one of you in this thread, has commented,

all of the other Poets poems, this tells me its personal, and not poetry.”


This what I mean


"What bothers me here is that not one of you in this thread, has commented,

on any of the other Poets poems that have posted here in this thread, this tells me its personal, and not poetry.”

Sorry, I slung the wrong sentence, my bad, confused


I just notice things.

And no post here is rubbish, it all has been published..

bye now

and keep up the posts, This thread I hope never gets deleted, wink
or shall I say posts can, come on...

Happy New Year..










Sometimes it good to be plain honest. It's better than being hypocritical. I believe it's really bad when someone presents poor poetry and is being told it's beautiful, even when the person making such commendation is aware that the material is poor. Be honest with ourselves and let us commend good poetry, provide tips on those who needs improvement, we can criiticize privately, by sending email messages. If we are objective, we will see the best poems winning a competition and not cliques and friends voting for each other. The danger of applauding poor poetry everytime is that the level of artistry in poetry will fall and this site will become a secondrate site of amateur writers. maybe me can learn from criticisms and lift the standard and promote poems of quality over friends wanting to appease friends.

The Poemeater.

The Poemeater.

01-03-2011 at 03:17:23 AM

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poemeter- I would agree that constructive critism can be beificial in helping a poet develop and grow within thier art and further thier poetic skills and I will not argue about this point, but what Ed didn't slow down to understand is that there is a time and a place for such critism. Most poets, including myself will review a poem and point the positive aspects, and then if I have something negative or constructive to point out will most often do so as a private PM. Ed would not know and did not do his homework to realize that, this is how many of us at OP respond constructively. I don't think it helps a poet to grow if you pick apart thier poem with a fine tooth comb in public, all I think this does is belittle the person and often they take it very personally. There is also the school of poetry that many poets that want such critism go to as well as the forum "critize my poem". Many poets here also post not to be critized as much as to release, to vent, to bleed some of the emotions of one's pain, inner torment, fustrations, etc. Some poems posted here are extremely personal and open, I can't in good conciousness pick apart a poem about a mom who lost her baby angel to cancer, true story. Sometimes it is more appropriate to just move on to something else if you can not find something positive to say. Poetry is different for us all, what makes a great poem for one person might be quite different for another, who is to say who is right??? Who is the better poet, the acedemic poet who can write with perfect form, rhyme, meter, allegory etc, or the street poet that writes with pure emotion, heart, soul??? Personally I think the whole rating system should be changed, I hate giving a rating to a poem, it is such a personal experience and so subjective to evaluate a poem, what makes a poem a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 , 6, 7, 8, 9, or a perfect 10??? What criteria do we use to judge??? How much a poem moves you, how well you can relate to it, how well it was written, how great the rhyme and meter is, if it was thought provoking, the imagery, the metaphors, how well it fits into some box we label it as??? Who amoung us is truely quialified to rate a poem based on all these levels, and will it not be different for each of us since we all have our own unique perspectives and will read and relate to each poem so differently??? I am certainly not the expert but I ask who amoung us is??? Who knows enough to say they know and can judge everything??? I know enough to say this, " The only thing I know for certain is I know nothing, the only thing worth knowing is thyself, and it is a life long goal". Purity of the soul, journey well!!! with grace and humility ANGEL

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01-03-2011 at 03:26:31 AM

Amigo and an Amiga Shall Rise

Amigo and an Amiga Shall Rise,, come on, ya and to the ones that are silent yes, Salute...2011



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01-03-2011 at 03:49:45 AM

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Ok, the idea of a publishing team is suited....
so do I need to find us all an editing team.
Now you know as well as I do it will take us all just a tad longer to put a book out,
but that can be arranged.. Yes it can..
There are many English Majors out of work, and many English Street Master's are out of work.
Let's not forget about the field we play in, I just gave you all new grass, to play on. Sweet grass.. velvet as the trees...

If you want lights, well, make sure you are not camera shy...ok.
So are you ready, for the stats, because CreateSpace doesn't lie.
And I sure- and the heavens wont...




When power leads man towards arrogance, poetry reminds him of his limitations. When power narrows the area of man's concern, poetry reminds him of the richness and diversity of existence. When power corrupts, poetry cleanses.

John F. Kennedy (1917-1963) Thirty-fifth President of the USA