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Contest Is A Popularity Contest

07-03-2009 at 03:19:50 AM

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OH YEAH I ALMOST FORGOT BOB CAME TO MY HOUSE LAST NIGHT. HE PISSED ON MY ROSE BUSHED CUT DOWN MY TREE KICKED MY DOG AND STOLE MY CAR THAT HAD MY WEED IN IT. IF YOU SEE HIM GET MY WEED.



LMAO

shakes head.. that dammn Bob! ((smile))



if we all win or if none of us wins; please know that i stay inspired by all of you and i am grateful for you opening your minds window and sharing and then allowing me to comment and rate! smile

thank you!

you all rock!!

07-03-2009 at 08:30:10 AM

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if we all win or if none of us wins; please know that i stay inspired by all of you and i am grateful for you opening your minds window and sharing and then allowing me to comment and rate! smile

thank you!

you all rock!!


amen. there some really gifted people here!

07-03-2009 at 12:20:28 PM

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all well and good idea,s and comments, agree to most, scoring or judging should be done differently, if this was a OP thing done by the site.(UPA is a members contest created by a member) I always thought there should be a 2nd and 3rd place too. But with the volume of poems each week for the weekly OP contest, they would need a panel of judges willing to read all new submissions that way none would be missed and all given a fair chance, just my opinion and I don't mean to step on anyone's toes and this is a great site for al our poetry.
I write because i love to write, I like to discover new talent here and read, it's like christmas, you never know what you will open and find, anyway take care all and keep writing.. grin

07-06-2009 at 01:02:18 AM

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I am just happy to be able to get some of this shit out of my head, the voices are threatening to move out to a bigger place and I really like the voices! (They have some cool ideas!)
Seriously, I just like to write and most of what I post is stuff I type right here on this site, not things that I've written down. I like to think it keeps me sharp and keeps the creative juices flowing! Thanks for a place to put the unsaid words before they become unfelt emotion and death to a thought!

You have all taken a little trip to phatville its been phatastic! Yall come back now ya hear! tongue rolleye

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07-08-2009 at 10:43:57 AM

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great idea

07-09-2009 at 10:59:19 PM

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I can't even get people to read my poems! I think the whole thing is rigged toward favorites!

07-10-2009 at 01:14:24 AM

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I can't even get people to read my poems! I think the whole thing is rigged toward favorites!
I hear ya, I'll read yours, tomorrow, smile..

07-10-2009 at 02:11:47 AM

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put that way you are correct

I'm sorry if i came across as off beat

like i said maybe they should offer categories in the future
for the weekly contests or something....

i havent been on the site a hot month
and i haven't posted much or truly got passionate about contests
and other than my personal blog or on my myspace
I haven't really posted my thoughts online before either....

i can tell by your writing style that you have many more years experience writing than i do
for whatever its worth I've read your poetry and i love it!
i don't think i know that you are talented....



Well, I really appreciate that, but I'm not sure I'm worthy of that kind of flattery; just another writer out here who tries to capture thoughts I believe might be of interest to others... That most of my posts here happen to be songs and not pure poems, well... I guess I've just been playing and writing for a long time, so that's what I enjoy most... Thank you again for those kind words... Doug

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07-10-2009 at 02:43:45 AM
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Since Doug posted a quote I will say if you haven't read his stuff yet you should because Doug is top three on this site by far smile I know completely off topic of the thread but then again.... maybe not

07-10-2009 at 02:53:47 AM

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Since Doug posted a quote I will say if you haven't read his stuff yet you should because Doug is top three on this site by far smile I know completely off topic of the thread but then again.... maybe not


Ok WL, where do I send the check and chocolate cake...??? lol.... Thanks brother, but you need to blow your own whistle, you have some great writes... You, and Chaos, JL, JB, Erika, Bear, Poetography and so many other greats here are all my contest winners... Kudo's my friend...

07-10-2009 at 03:16:42 AM
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A humble one you are but on that list I do not belong

07-11-2009 at 03:35:49 AM

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ok you guys can stop kissing now and get back on topic.......lol just kidding

Bob made me write this............help he says hes holding me hostage until someone sends twinkies with the glitter filling....... gulp

09-02-2009 at 09:51:10 AM

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I absolutely agree. I've posted a poem on here but I'm going to delete it because the contest is a popularity contest just like what the open poster said.

The poems should all be annoymous in the contest until the contest is over.

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09-08-2009 at 10:34:44 PM

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We're all as different as can be
So I can't rate you
Nor you rate me
Your method's good
As grading scales can be
But can you really see as I can see?
I really doubt it, unless you're me
If you could you would,
I have no doubt see
The colors that Van Gough could see
And hear unwritten melodies
Mozart wrote for thee and me!

grin grin grin grin grin grin

09-08-2009 at 11:00:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Teala

I absolutely agree. I've posted a poem on here but I'm going to delete it because the contest is a popularity contest just like what the open poster said.

The poems should all be annoymous in the contest until the contest is over.

This is the best idea for next year, nice one, sweet it is.

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09-09-2009 at 10:21:28 AM

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I posted my opinion a few weeks back in the form of a poem called "The Winning Poet". It is my understanding that they are going to scrap the current "popularity contest" approach to the weekly contest and replace it with....... still a mystery.

09-09-2009 at 10:41:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hampton

I posted my opinion a few weeks back in the form of a poem called "The Winning Poet". It is my understanding that they are going to scrap the current "popularity contest" approach to the weekly contest and replace it with....... still a mystery.


Still a mystery on this end too lol.. I'm still actively following any conversation that has to do with contests, ratings, etc tho. "Rate the Rater" concepts have been brought up again recently in this thread:

http://www.originalpoetry.com/forum/view/topic/topic_id/1809

-Papa Paczki snake

09-09-2009 at 10:43:58 AM

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This is a P.S. to my previous post. I used to be of the opinion that accumulating friends was the road to winning the weekly contest (See my poem Friends) but I have since changed my mind. I spend about 75% of my reading time on this site scouring the latest Friends activity so I can read and comment on their poems. The other 25% of my time is spent in reading randomly. I find that out of dozens of friends there are only a handful that seem to follow my work and I am very appreciative of that. There is another group of Friends that will gladly read your work and comment if you notify them by personal message that you have posted a new poem. I am sure you are all aware that you can currently only send personal messages to one Friend at a time. I understand that will change in the future when the next major round of improvements are implemented. This brings me to the third group of Friends (the vast majority) that just don't bother or are too busy to read and comment on your work. It is my personal opinion that there are at least a dozen or so poems every week that are worth of being singled out for recognition. One of the improvements that I submitted was to do away with the single weekly winner and post the top five or top ten poems weekly..assuming of course that they can come up with a selection process that is unbiased.

09-09-2009 at 04:31:58 PM

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First,I am really proud of everyone who took a trophy.To be recognized for an accomplishment is such a wonderful feeling of healthy pride.When I first came here,I was stoked about the contest and possible publication.Then,I started to critisize my own work harshly when questioning-why not me.I would read some winners poetry and feel a kind of jealousy that just didnt settle right in my bonesLOL.I am by nature extreamly competitive,so for me-involving myself in contest such as this,takes away why I LOVE TO WRITE!-I dont want to begin writing from my soul..only to question if it will impress enough to have alittle trophy by it.Although I do feel that it is such an honor to be recognized for such a gift-in my case,I will lose site of why I write-or more so,why I love to write!
-Not to mention if I had won a trophy-I would be hurt by other poets voicing that it was because of popularity/or social status,and not because I was an amazing writer-who was deserving.So,I choose to post here and there,and kinda leave the contest alone.-
-I also want to add-I really love reading all of your work and thank you everyone for all your comments and taking time to read me.thanks-hugs

Any hoot-thats my deal.
ps-Sally,Im sure you put Marilynn to shame girl!LOL smile

09-09-2009 at 04:39:28 PM

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Originally Posted by laydbak1

The weekly poetry contest is, I believe, more of a popularity contest than a valid contest...

To reduce, or eliminate popularity bias, I believe the contest would be better served making each entry as by an anonymous author, then it can be rated by anonymous, random readers who can then view it without any preconceived notions related to it's author...

When the entry's contest period is over, the poem is simply placed back into the named author's list where ratings and/or comments may continue normally, if desired...

I believe this allow the better pieces to emerge with at least a measure of credibility...

Any additional suggestions or ideas on this subject...???

09-09-2009 at 04:41:58 PM

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I agree. I don't think any writing site contest are legit if the author is not anonymous. Just my newbie two cents.

09-09-2009 at 05:40:23 PM

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I agree. I don't think any writing site contest are legit if the author is not anonymous. Just my newbie two cents.


You are 100% correct... Bias is automatically built-in to any writing "contest" if entries or submissions contain any associative cognitive attributes such as (but, not limited to) author's name, gender, age, race, country, religion, shoe size, or anything other "add-on" which, by default, sets them apart from others beyond their content alone... The "contest" results are by default, invalid... The voting process here is highly questionable as well... Thank you for your input...

09-09-2009 at 05:47:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelynn

First,I am really proud of everyone who took a trophy.To be recognized for an accomplishment is such a wonderful feeling of healthy pride.When I first came here,I was stoked about the contest and possible publication.Then,I started to critisize my own work harshly when questioning-why not me.I would read some winners poetry and feel a kind of jealousy that just didnt settle right in my bonesLOL.I am by nature extreamly competitive,so for me-involving myself in contest such as this,takes away why I LOVE TO WRITE!-I dont want to begin writing from my soul..only to question if it will impress enough to have alittle trophy by it.Although I do feel that it is such an honor to be recognized for such a gift-in my case,I will lose site of why I write-or more so,why I love to write!
-Not to mention if I had won a trophy-I would be hurt by other poets voicing that it was because of popularity/or social status,and not because I was an amazing writer-who was deserving.So,I choose to post here and there,and kinda leave the contest alone.-
-I also want to add-I really love reading all of your work and thank you everyone for all your comments and taking time to read me.thanks-hugs

Any hoot-thats my deal.
ps-Sally,Im sure you put Marilynn to shame girl!LOL smile


Thank you Maddy for the pat on the back, and your two or three cents worth on the topic... I'm sure the contest being run here promotes a bit of site interest, but beyond that most of the real writers here don't put much credence into it... Like myself, you, and most others here, we love to write what we feel and hope that others may take away a little something for themselves for just having spent the few minutes reading the piece... Thanks Maddy, keep up your own wonderful scripts... Doug

09-09-2009 at 05:52:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hampton

This is a P.S. to my previous post. I used to be of the opinion that accumulating friends was the road to winning the weekly contest (See my poem Friends) but I have since changed my mind. I spend about 75% of my reading time on this site scouring the latest Friends activity so I can read and comment on their poems. The other 25% of my time is spent in reading randomly. I find that out of dozens of friends there are only a handful that seem to follow my work and I am very appreciative of that. There is another group of Friends that will gladly read your work and comment if you notify them by personal message that you have posted a new poem. I am sure you are all aware that you can currently only send personal messages to one Friend at a time. I understand that will change in the future when the next major round of improvements are implemented. This brings me to the third group of Friends (the vast majority) that just don't bother or are too busy to read and comment on your work. It is my personal opinion that there are at least a dozen or so poems every week that are worth of being singled out for recognition. One of the improvements that I submitted was to do away with the single weekly winner and post the top five or top ten poems weekly..assuming of course that they can come up with a selection process that is unbiased.


Thanks Hamp... Your breakdown of where you spend your time here is much the same as mine; ie, I spend about 3/4 of my time on this site reading others pieces, and the rest either commenting to them, those that comment me, or answering the mailbox messages... I used to open this site up on the front page and scour through the new stuff there, but I rarely look at it anymore; preferring to see what my friends are reading and surf that way for new material to entertain my gray matter... Thanks for you input my friend....

09-09-2009 at 05:55:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hampton

I posted my opinion a few weeks back in the form of a poem called "The Winning Poet". It is my understanding that they are going to scrap the current "popularity contest" approach to the weekly contest and replace it with....... still a mystery.


Still a mystery on this end too lol.. I'm still actively following any conversation that has to do with contests, ratings, etc tho. "Rate the Rater" concepts have been brought up again recently in this thread:

http://www.originalpoetry.com/forum/view/topic/topic_id/1809

-Papa Paczki snake


Thanks for the post Papa... Be sure and let everyone know if there are any real changes to this "contest" thing... There will be a lot of people interested in that I'm sure... Doug

Poetry comes nearer to vital truth than history.

Plato (BC 427-BC 347) Greek philosopher.