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Petition to get Papa back

01-24-2011 at 02:33:40 AM

RE: Petition to get Papa back

cute, who is the elite tyrant??? Me??? I am just another poet, just another voice in the wind of reason. But I am an idea man, and I know how to put ideas into action. If someone out there has a better idea or option, we are all listening with open ears. Problem is most people don't want to fix problems, they just want to bitch, whine, and complain about them. This is the way of the masses of society and isn't much different here. I was just voicing my concern that we now have no face to OP, no one working behind the scenes to keepup the maintainence of this site and the servers, no one to be the voice of the community, no one to be a go between the owners and us the community of members. Yes I was friends with papa for better or worse, he never did me wrong. I am part of no clique, I am me, I am a looner, always have been and always will. OP is my home away from home because this is one of the first places I feel like I can be myself, and I fit in. I am always myself regardless, but I usually don't fit in, LOL. So papa is gone and perhaps whether we like it or not he is not coming back, either way we need someone to take his place or this place with very likely be history. I for one would like to have him back, no he wasn't perfect, but his name wasn't jesus either and he never claimed to be a saint and I doubt you are either. He did a good job and he kept this site running smoothly for the most part and helped it grow and prosper. Now we are ready to take it to the next level, me and wordslinger and some others have many new ideas for the future and ways to help OP grow far above expectations but we need someone to be a go between, someone to help put our ideas into action, otherwise they are just throughts in the wind... Lets keep this posititive, if anyone has anything constructive to add, than by all means say it. I never called all my friends to come and post thier thoughts, I called all of OP... Purity of the soul, journey well!!! with grace and humility ANGEL

01-24-2011 at 03:10:57 AM

RE: RE: Petition to get Papa back

Quote:
Originally Posted by angel33614

cute, who is the elite tyrant??? Me??? I am just another poet, just another voice in the wind of reason. But I am an idea man, and I know how to put ideas into action. If someone out there has a better idea or option, we are all listening with open ears. Problem is most people don't want to fix problems, they just want to bitch, whine, and complain about them. This is the way of the masses of society and isn't much different here. I was just voicing my concern that we now have no face to OP, no one working behind the scenes to keepup the maintainence of this site and the servers, no one to be the voice of the community, no one to be a go between the owners and us the community of members. Yes I was friends with papa for better or worse, he never did me wrong. I am part of no clique, I am me, I am a looner, always have been and always will. OP is my home away from home because this is one of the first places I feel like I can be myself, and I fit in. I am always myself regardless, but I usually don't fit in, LOL. So papa is gone and perhaps whether we like it or not he is not coming back, either way we need someone to take his place or this place with very likely be history. I for one would like to have him back, no he wasn't perfect, but his name wasn't jesus either and he never claimed to be a saint and I doubt you are either. He did a good job and he kept this site running smoothly for the most part and helped it grow and prosper. Now we are ready to take it to the next level, me and wordslinger and some others have many new ideas for the future and ways to help OP grow far above expectations but we need someone to be a go between, someone to help put our ideas into action, otherwise they are just throughts in the wind... Lets keep this posititive, if anyone has anything constructive to add, than by all means say it. I never called all my friends to come and post thier thoughts, I called all of OP... Purity of the soul, journey well!!! with grace and humility ANGEL


Hey John, you are really ANGEL!!!

01-24-2011 at 03:55:15 AM

RE: RE: Petition to get Papa back

Quote:
Originally Posted by stefy

we need him back



Obviously, to get Papa back, we must dig into our pockets to help the OP Administration survive the Great Depression.
I am prepared to pay an annual Membership Fee. All sensible and practical social non-government services institutions, clubs and lodges survive, in part , by membership fees. Let's be practical.

The writing on the wall is clear that the OP site may fold ,if we continue to be unrealistic poets. The first edition of the anthology ought to have been sold out like hot bread, within the first week, considering the thousands of Members on the OP site , How many copies have been sold ot date Why is there no publishing of the second volume? We are heading for deep waters !
I am willing to pay an annual membership fee. Requiring a fee, as the condition for qualifying for membership is the most practical method for determining who are serious about the OP site,and to rid the site of current hangers-on. Let's pay.

01-24-2011 at 03:55:16 AM

RE: RE: Petition to get Papa back

Quote:
Originally Posted by stefy

we need him back



Obviously, to get Papa back, we must dig into our pockets to help the OP Administration survive the Great Depression.
I am prepared to pay an annual Membership Fee. All sensible and practical social non-government services institutions, clubs and lodges survive, in part , by membership fees. Let's be practical.

The writing on the wall is clear that the OP site may fold ,if we continue to be unrealistic poets. The first edition of the anthology ought to have been sold out like hot bread, within the first week, considering the thousands of Members on the OP site , How many copies have been sold ot date Why is there no publishing of the second volume? We are heading for deep waters !
I am willing to pay an annual membership fee. Requiring a fee, as the condition for qualifying for membership is the most practical method for determining who are serious about the OP site,and to rid the site of current hangers-on. Let's pay.

01-24-2011 at 01:56:59 PM

RE: Petition to get Papa back

Stefy; John aka Angel. and John E. WordSlinger are two diffrent poets, lol.. I know it can get confusing!

Hip, I think your comments make sense, especially the comment that Pac will not be coming back due to budget cuts, fired is fired, right? What i don't agree with is knocking down the attempts(ideas we are throwin' out there so we don't lose the site. If you think the fee things is a lame idea, ok. -So what's your idea? Do you have one?- I think at this point we(poets discussing membership dues) are not trying to make the situation harder, or ridiculous, we are just throwing out ideas- listening to one another, and hoping for resolution, before OP is lost. You know Hip,- HOPE. I still am a huge believer in HOPE. I am a realist Hip, and truely do 'get' the situation, but Im also an optimist, and I am optimistic that we can pull OP out of this. Maybe not- but let's work together and try, what do we have to lose dude?- Maddi

01-24-2011 at 03:11:31 PM

RE: Petition to get Papa back

poetry brothers and sisters
For the love of poetry. We are honor'd to be the voice for O.P.
by Poets choice. As a poet here along with Madelynn
we love this site, and all here. I have solutions, but I can not
disclose them publicly, the Adim of this land has not step out
from his palace, but I know he is watching.
We will fight till the lights go out, and if this site doesn't change
for the better then in do time a new co op site will be born.
The net has every technology possible to insure happiness
in all forms, this site just hasn't went in that direction.
I don't know who's fault that is but it doesn't matter.
What matters is this every poet has a say so.
The poet that won the contest have a say so,
because your work is selected for commercial revenue.
Now if the Lord of this site wants to listen to what I propose
then that would be a professional thing.
Shall they do not want to hear what I have.
The WordSlinger and my Queen/1st Lady Madelynn and
Change inc (the Poets that believe in us)
will be forced to make a new site.
It may take long, but I promise you this.
All co op members will be impress'd.

01-24-2011 at 03:22:13 PM

RE: RE: Petition to get Papa back

Quote:
Originally Posted by WormHolz

You beat me to him Angel,

Hip,
I hope you know, that these people
can see right through you,
with no picture or not,
And I can as well.
These people have emotional, and love for this site.
One way or the other they will succeed.

Imagine that you are from the future,
and you traveled back in time to visit Poetry Web Sites
and took back with you similar Time Poets.
You read and meet them and take them with you to the future...
Where does the poetry come from?
In Poetic Science, as in life, there is no such thing as free poetry.
Some poet is paying the price!



WTF????? dude, something is seriously wrong with your central processing unit. cool mad

01-24-2011 at 10:45:55 PM

RE: RE: Petition to get Papa back

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madelynn

Stefy; John aka Angel. and John E. WordSlinger are two diffrent poets, lol.. I know it can get confusing!

Hip, I think your comments make sense, especially the comment that Pac will not be coming back due to budget cuts, fired is fired, right? What i don't agree with is knocking down the attempts(ideas we are throwin' out there so we don't lose the site. If you think the fee things is a lame idea, ok. -So what's your idea? Do you have one?- I think at this point we(poets discussing membership dues) are not trying to make the situation harder, or ridiculous, we are just throwing out ideas- listening to one another, and hoping for resolution, before OP is lost. You know Hip,- HOPE. I still am a huge believer in HOPE. I am a realist Hip, and truly do 'get' the situation, but Im also an optimist, and I am optimistic that we can pull OP out of this. Maybe not- but let's work together and try, what do we have to lose dude?- Maddi


I believe words have been put in my mouth
I wasn't aware I knocked on anyone's ideas. All I said was that a petition was a waste of time ( and I elaborated as to why) I never even acknowledged a fee as a possibility... but...now that we're here.
I think the fee is a awful idea . As you can see there are only about 20 or so people that frequent these boards. Let's assume half of you are bullshitting about donating money.. That brings us to 10. Do you really think the owners of this site are going to keep it open just so you ten can go back and fourth commenting on each other's work? For 200 bucks annually? I think not. People will leave quickly if a fee is required to be on this site. Especially when there are free online venues available such as Facebook to post your work. I admire your optimism, but I don't believe my opinion should be deemed rude just because it isn't what you want to hear.


Now if you'll excuse me I was just finishing up watching Free Willy 2

Last edited by Hiporlacking 01-24-2011 at 10:57:52 PM

01-24-2011 at 10:53:20 PM

RE: Petition to get Papa back

Hip,
Your point is valid.
Op has a constant contact newsletter, to temp suspend the contest.
And to have a poll on issues..
They also fail to see the emotional value, and time spent,
And the posts here as well.
So your wisdom is a light on the matter, and the darkness will not fall
on WordSlinger and Change inc

01-24-2011 at 10:55:41 PM

RE: RE: RE: Petition to get Papa back

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiporlacking

Originally Posted by Madelynn

Stefy; John aka Angel. and John E. WordSlinger are two diffrent poets, lol.. I know it can get confusing!

Hip, I think your comments make sense, especially the comment that Pac will not be coming back due to budget cuts, fired is fired, right? What i don't agree with is knocking down the attempts(ideas we are throwin' out there so we don't lose the site. If you think the fee things is a lame idea, ok. -So what's your idea? Do you have one?- I think at this point we(poets discussing membership dues) are not trying to make the situation harder, or ridiculous, we are just throwing out ideas- listening to one another, and hoping for resolution, before OP is lost. You know Hip,- HOPE. I still am a huge believer in HOPE. I am a realist Hip, and truly do 'get' the situation, but Im also an optimist, and I am optimistic that we can pull OP out of this. Maybe not- but let's work together and try, what do we have to lose dude?- Maddi


I believe words have been put in my mouth
I wasn't aware I knocked on anyone's ideas. All I said was that a petition was a waste of time ( and I elaborated as to why) I never even acknowledged a fee as a possibility... but...now that we're here.
I think the fee is a stupid idea . As you can see there are only about 20 or so people that frequent these boards. Let's assume half of you are bullshitting about donating money.. That brings us to 10. Do you really think the owners of this site are going to keep it open just so you ten can go back and fourth commenting on each other's work? For 200 bucks annually? I think not. People will leave quickly if a fee is required to be on this site. Especially when there are free online venues available such as Facebook to post your work. I admire your optimism, but I don't believe my opinion should be deemed rude just because it isn't what you want to hear.


Now if you'll excuse me I was just finishing up watching Free Willy 2


Hip everyone knows watching Free Willy only works if you watch the Michael Jackson video after that's a must LOL

01-27-2011 at 07:36:30 PM

RE: Petition to get Papa back

change is coming as it always should, without change true growth would not be possible, rather than fight it, bitch about it, complain about it, whine about it, lets embrace it and see what the horizon holds as the future is nearly upon us, we are the living history of poetry in the making... Purity of the soul, journey well!!! with grace and humility ANGEL

01-27-2011 at 10:57:00 PM

RE: Petition to get Papa back

from the horses mouth,
Originally Posted by papapaczki

Hey Everyone,

I probably should have chimed in days ago, but I've been busy, and felt it would be ackward. Anyhow, I appreciate all the kind words you have all said about me. I really enjoyed my time with originalpoetry.com, and am sad to see people spreading rumors of its demise, and threatening to leave the site.

First off, I have a new job. I'm not going homeless or anything.

Second, my former bosses are great people. They gave me the opportunity to work on OP, and other projects, and I had a lot of fun doing it. Things don't last forever, and change was needed. Unfortunately, not change anyone was wanting, but change none the less.

Please don't let yourself get caught up in unnecessary anger. You come to this web site because you enjoy poetry and you enjoy connecting with each other. There is no good reason to end any of that. Embrace the site, and continue on with what you were doing. Support the site in the same ways you did the last 2 years. OP isn't shutting down.

Well that's all from me. Its awkward being here posting this ... take care everyone.

-Papa Paczki

Now that the rumors have been silenced, lets get back to doing what is important and what we all came here to do, reading, writing, commenting on great poetry. Purity of the soul, journey well!!! with grace and humility ANGEL

Poetry is either something that lives like fire inside you or else it is nothing, an empty formalized bore around which pedants can endlessly drone their notes and explanations.

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