|
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeBe yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar Wilde |
|
Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeQuote: seems no choice for me here-after all, according to some, your not really a poet unless you play by the rules-form-forget the message-not proper style-all is babble-not poetry at all. |
|
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar Wildeso with that in mind your not really a golfer if you don't play by the rules or your not a tennis player of you like to go out once a week and hit a few balls around - or you did not play baseball if you went to the park and hit a few balls around------- |
|
Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeI feel better already. Man made the rules-he can change them. I AM a poet. Some ego-ed booked fools probably had to read directions on how to cross the street. |
|
Re: Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeQuote: Originally Posted by mspoetris seems no choice for me here-after all, according to some, your not really a poet unless you play by the rules-form-forget the message-not proper style-all is babble-not poetry at all. ...according to who? Who are the "some, (who say) your (sic) not really a poet unless you play by the rules-forget-the-message... Who is saying that? Where are you getting that from? Maybe you're confusing "style" with writing basic English. Is it too much to ask to expect a writer to be able to write decent English? Please don't confuse style with error, and please don't demonize those who do what you cannot do...it is always possible to learn and grow. I did-I challenge you to do the same. This is part and parcel of our great poetic culture. |
|
Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeO.K. O.K. So be it. Style, as I was taught, is a fingerprint. I only got C's in English grammar. |
|
Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeIs that the phrase of the day? Because my local chiropractor had it on their board outside. Lol. |
|
Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeStyle is a little more than that; it is actually a maifestation of our personality. OK, so you don't like "style" and form-that in itself, is a style. But my whole point is, how can you "break the rules" if you don't even know what they are! Now, the folks who desire to write lyric, rhyming, metric poetry; are backed into a corner. they MUST learn the rules and follow them. My postings have been for the benefit of lyric poets, so the issues that I have addressed have been primarily for them. So you don't like metic poetry, because you don't like rules. My thread does NOT pertain to you! I'm sorry for the confusion! Last edited by studly111 09-16-2009 at 07:37:24 PM |
|
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeI need to learn the rules --and I will do so- |
|
Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeQuote: No you don't, my dear fellow bard! There is really only one rule; "To thine own self be true"!
|
|
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeI did not read other poets or study poetry for 3 years on purpose because I wanted to find my own voice and not copy anothers. I feel confident in my voice now and I would , in fact, like to learn about poetic form- it certainly can not hurt- now. |
|
Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeThis is for me. I like to be true to myself |
|
Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeIn my humble but obviously perfect opinion (ha f*cking ha) anyone can be themselves, write what and or how they want...but don't expect others to get on board and or champion your ideas if you haven't found an interesting way to present yesterday's thoughts. The problems, passions, and perceptions of now are the same as 100 years ago...so it is our job to illustrate not so new ideas in a way that people feel as if they have never seen them given life before. To jot in the heat of genius and not reflect after the pulse has left the pen is like perfectly cooking a chicken but forgetting to season it properly. |
|
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar Wildei have a job- and poetry is not it---- |
|
Re: Re: Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeQuote: SAY AMEN SOMEBODY!!! You are so right! It is not really what we actually say, but how we say it! We may say what has been said before, however, our continual challenge is to say it in a way that has never been said before. This necessitates the active involvement of our imagination. This would tend to exclude the "write what I feel", "Jerry Springer audience" psuedo-poets; you know, those that think they're the next Naomi Judd, Loretta Lynn, Tammy Wynette, or Buck Owens! They're the ones that think that just because they have a "message", that they are exempt from their obligation to properly deliver it; that we should overlook their subpar writing and stroke them or else they'll complain that the "elitist" is "putting them down". (Sorry to vent, but I had to take a break from snorting detergent and listening to "Montavani Plays the Beatles"!)
Originally Posted by Pape In my humble but obviously perfect opinion (ha f*cking ha) anyone can be themselves, write what and or how they want...but don't expect others to get on board and or champion your ideas if you haven't found an interesting way to present yesterday's thoughts. The problems, passions, and perceptions of now are the same as 100 years ago...so it is our job to illustrate not so new ideas in a way that people feel as if they have never seen them given life before. To jot in the heat of genius and not reflect after the pulse has left the pen is like perfectly cooking a chicken but forgetting to season it properly. If the emotion is strong enough to spawn written language, then it should be strong enough to propel the want to revisit and revise. For some a first write may be the divine write, but not all of us are as lucky. Last edited by studly111 09-19-2009 at 01:44:53 AM |
|
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar Wildethe world needs conformist and non-conformist- when it comes to poetry-all are welcome- |
|
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken -- Oscar WildeHard Core |
Poetry is what is lost in translation.
Robert Frost (1875-1963) American Poet.