SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRY
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SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYHints for Improving Poetry Last edited by cousinsoren 10-10-2009 at 10:48:48 PM |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYHello and thank you cousinsoren for your wise input and most kind comments pertaining to mine and other poets Blank Verse writing. I'm overwhelmed and humbled as i'm certain Wordslinger, gogant and many other poets here at OP are. Your work and your writing skills |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Originally Posted by BadBadBear Hello and thank you cousinsoren for your wise input and most kind comments pertaining to mine and other poets Blank Verse writing. I'm overwhelmed and humbled as i'm certain Wordslinger, gogant and many other poets here at OP are. Your work and your writing skills are incredible. I'm still waiting to read the first 5 Parts per Tizzy Dancing to which i've only read Part 6 and when a poet reads a masterpiece .. a poet knows. If you've not won the weekly contest here at the OP site, undoubtedly your work has fell in the cracks somehow with no sensible explanation to be had. Continued success to you sir  BadBadBear  Thanks , My Friend , for this , your kind acknowledgement. I do not post , at any time whatever, , to win the contest...................lol. I post because I am anxious to share my poems with others , as well as to enjoy and appreciate those of other poets--- some like yourself who are better poets than I. I have posted Puppets (Part One) as you requested. Part Two -----next weekend,. Rate me , please. |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYYou're more than welcome my Fellow Poet Friend. You have some great, great work i enjoy as well as many others appreciate and enjoy your work also. I do enter the weekly contest to hopefully share my work with OP personnel also whom may otherwise never read any of my work. I could care less about the contest as you yourself have mentioned. As if they don't have enough to read already.Certainly i enjoy sharing and reading other poets work as well. Last edited by BadBadBear 10-11-2009 at 10:43:45 AM |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYI love my Teacher Oren, can we go fishing now, lol |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Sunday 11, 2009 Word, You caused stitches in my side , having broken a rib or two with laughter. I have instructed my doctor to send you the bill. Go fishing, if you can find a pool big enough for you and Madelynn to fish in...............................lol I shall send you six more poems , next week. |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYbut if its all monotone doesnt it give it that dull affect??? |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYI agree with Vampire, originality is something that cannot be taught and many times not understood by contempraries. Writing is an art form, just like great creators like Michaelangelo, Rodan, Matisse, the Wright Brothers, Dali, Einstein, Monet, Bill Gates, Van gogh, Beethoven, Picasso, Ferrari and others, the flame of creativity will always burn hot, and is the path to continuing human evolution in many fields including art. Let us not be reactionary or the mind, and our society, becomes stangnant because when we do not progress, we digress. This line of reasoning that the preexisting is the only way, by extension, would have us all riding horses and living in caves mentally. Let us not all be limited by the mundane, capable only of driving only four door Hondas, PLEASE!! |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Originally Posted by VampireGirl666 but if its all monotone doesnt it give it that dull affect??? Ive realized that if something doesnt have a rythme or a beat or something, it just doesnt catch me attention. i wanna make my poetry better but i want it to...i want it to catch peoples attentions. I mean. if it doesnt catch my attention then dont other people feel the same?  There is a whole bag of tricks , a poet can use to minimize or eradicate monotone in blank verse. Since the primary aim of blank verse is to tell a story, in the best possible way, a poet can introduce characters and dialogue between characters in the poem. Inanimate things such as rivers and trees , as well as animals, can be made to act and talk like humans' Literary strategies such as irony, metonomy , metaphors, hyoerbole , adeptly used will relieve moonotone. Variation in length of lines or verses. Exclamation Apathetic appeal, and pathetic fallacy,talking directly to a reader. appealing to reader experience. Introducing into poem elements that the reader finds pleasure in identifying with. Tempo variation, using long and short syllables, strong and weak accents. Use of Onmatopoeiaic words, , such as bang, buzz, hiss. moan, roar etc. In fact, because of its anecdotal flexibility, blank verse poses less tendency towards monotone. Last edited by cousinsoren 10-13-2009 at 06:15:08 PM |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Originally Posted by Grito I agree with Vampire, originality is something that cannot be taught and many times not understood by contempraries. Writing is an art form, just like great creators like Michaelangelo, Rodan, Matisse, the Wright Brothers, Dali, Einstein, Monet, Bill Gates, Van gogh, Beethoven, Picasso, Ferrari and others, the flame of creativity will always burn hot, and is the path to continuing human evolution in many fields including art. Let us not be reactionary or the mind, and our society, becomes stangnant because when we do not progress, we digress. This line of reasoning that the preexisting is the only way, by extension, would have us all riding horses and living in caves mentally. Let us not all be limited by the mundane, capable only of driving only four door Hondas, PLEASE!! I agree entirely with you, Grito. Freedom of expression is the primary reason most modern poets write blank verse. But at the same time we must be aware of pitfalls that could reduce us to mediocrity. To cook a tasty pot of soup there are some ingredients you wouldn't put in, would you??? You wouldn't use an excessive temperature, would you? Your cooking time would be within reasoned or experienced limits, wouldn't it? Griro, I find it fascinating , as well as intriguing, that all the masters that you mentioned , were able to discover new horizons, to enter unknown regions never discovered before , and to ahieve greatnes by closely observing and following basic and fundamental rules. ........................................lol. MIchael Angelo ws a stickler for details. His most famous words were: "Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle" Last edited by cousinsoren 10-13-2009 at 06:59:04 AM |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Originally Posted by Grito I agree with Vampire, originality is something that cannot be taught and many times not understood by contempraries. Writing is an art form, just like great creators like Michaelangelo, Rodan, Matisse, the Wright Brothers, Dali, Einstein, Monet, Bill Gates, Van gogh, Beethoven, Picasso, Ferrari and others, the flame of creativity will always burn hot, and is the path to continuing human evolution in many fields including art. Let us not be reactionary or the mind, and our society, becomes stangnant because when we do not progress, we digress. This line of reasoning that the preexisting is the only way, by extension, would have us all riding horses and living in caves mentally. Let us not all be limited by the mundane, capable only of driving only four door Hondas, PLEASE!! BUT GRITO, IT IS A TRAVESTY TO POSE PROSE AS POETRY. THE TRUE OR ASPIRING POET ENDEAVOURS TO PERFECT HIS ART OR ALCHEMY BY LISTENING TO HIMSELF, AS WELL AS LISTENNG TO OTHER POETS.....................LOL |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Originally Posted by Grito I agree with Vampire, originality is something that cannot be taught and many times not understood by contempraries. Writing is an art form, just like great creators like Michaelangelo, Rodan, Matisse, the Wright Brothers, Dali, Einstein, Monet, Bill Gates, Van gogh, Beethoven, Picasso, Ferrari and others, the flame of creativity will always burn hot, and is the path to continuing human evolution in many fields including art. Let us not be reactionary or the mind, and our society, becomes stangnant because when we do not progress, we digress. This line of reasoning that the preexisting is the only way, by extension, would have us all riding horses and living in caves mentally. Let us not all be limited by the mundane, capable only of driving only four door Hondas, PLEASE!! POETRY , THEME OR MOOD NOTWITHSTANDING, MUST POSSESS MUSICALITY. I love your epigrammatic statement: " "the flame of creativity will always burn hot, and is the path to continuing human evolution in many fields, including art. " Great truth! |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYDear Cousin, I think we are in agreement but are stating it differently. I can see that you are as passionate about poetry as we all are and express a desire to elevate and give advise about improvements. Kudos! |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Originally Posted by Grito Dear Cousin, I think we are in agreement but are stating it differently. I can see that you are as passionate about poetry as we all are and express a desire to elevate and give advise about improvements. Kudos! THANKS, Grifo! I have started to read you. |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYI don't know, I have to have rhyme, syllable count and meter. Otherwise how would I know when the poem is ready? :D |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Originally Posted by Sleeves I don't know, I have to have rhyme, syllable count and meter. Otherwise how would I know when the poem is ready? :D Well. Sleeves these you mentioned are fundamental structural elements on which to build a poem. But of course, there is imagery which is really the art of painting what you see or feel or what you are thinking, by the use of tricks called "Figures of speech" Figures of speech include similes, metaphors, metonomy, hyperbolole, irony etc Look them up on your computer. However, remember that a poem is an outpouring of the spirit, and a poet is free to express whatever he feel or sees , as he thinks fit, in order to attract his audience. He hasn't got to be shackled by well- manicured rhymes. He may write free verse . However , a poet should avoid long lines of verses. Break over-long lines into two verses, If your poetry doesn't sound like prose to you, or to your friends, it is ready. ........lol! Last edited by cousinsoren 10-18-2009 at 06:46:07 PM |
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Re: Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYQuote: Originally Posted by Sleeves I don't know, I have to have rhyme, syllable count and meter. Otherwise how would I know when the poem is ready? :D I agree, sleevy. We should do our best with what our feelings are telling us to write...but keep in mind...we may have to argue a few points between ourselves.  ...................................................g
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYSome great advice for a beginner like me, thanks. |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYHey rizzo, you have a friend in cousin when it comes to learning the tricks and pitfalls of the art of writing poetry well............................................g |
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Re: SOME HINTS TO INPROVE YOUR POETRYOren, |
Poetry is what is lost in translation.
Robert Frost (1875-1963) American Poet.