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Does Anyone Know Anything About Something?

09-23-2009 at 02:03:23 PM

Does Anyone Know Anything About Something?

Chalk it up to American stupidity, but I feel the more I learn, and read, and stuff, the less I actually know. You ever try to just stop and think about all the things you know? Mine sort of stops at the basics: I can add and subtract, multiply and divide, tell you the difference between nouns and adjectives... but really, how much is that? Or is it even anything? I mean my mother and I were having this discussion the other day about the origins of language and who came up with some names... and it's like, is any of it true or real? Does any of it matter?

I think not.

What do you think?

09-23-2009 at 04:34:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSmart

I mean my mother and I were having this discussion the other day about the origins of language and who came up with some names... and it's like, is any of it true or real? Does any of it matter?

I think not.

What do you think?


Does it matter? There was an anthropological theory floating around when I was in school that supposed that our language and the words we give to things influence our ability to perceive the world around us. There was a tribe which did not have different words for the colors blue and green. Therefore, the sky and the grass were the same color for them. (This is not my theory, BTW). Think about some Eskimo peoples having twenty-something words for snow. Wouldn't winter, then, be richer and deeper for them than it is for me with my one (printable smile ) word for snow?

Take things down from a tribal/cultural level to the personal one and things are even more complicated. A concept/experience that I might label as "beautiful" may be completely different from one you would give the same label to (Keats notwithstanding). I'm not sure we can even really perceive something for which we have no language. So I'm voting yeah, it does matter. But then, I don't know much about anything, let alone anything about something.

09-23-2009 at 05:47:05 PM

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I think this dialogue is something, and for it to be something means it is an anything we know something about, right?

09-23-2009 at 10:29:23 PM

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If what they are finding out about Epi-genes is true; you might have started learning responses to the world at large 2-3 generations ago.

Strange indeed, and you thought education was in schools. Har har.

Last edited by RHPeat 09-23-2009 at 10:30:12 PM

09-24-2009 at 05:22:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RHPeat

, and you thought education was in schools. Har har.


I know most of the useful stuff I have learned was not in any classroom. The stuff I learned in school mostly makes for fascinating cocktail party conversation and little else. LOL

And thanks to your post, I'm going to have to look into this Epi-gene research. Cool!

09-24-2009 at 05:31:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BessFromKenton

Originally Posted by RHPeat

, and you thought education was in schools. Har har.


I know most of the useful stuff I have learned was not in any classroom. The stuff I learned in school mostly makes for fascinating cocktail party conversation and little else. LOL

And thanks to your post, I'm going to have to look into this Epi-gene research. Cool!


Bess
try Nova: Ghost in our genes on the internet. They had a great program on epigenes.

09-26-2009 at 12:19:04 PM

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Descartes wrote "Cogito Ergo Sum (I think therefore I am)." I think we all agree. That is more than just anything about something.

09-26-2009 at 12:56:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Grito

Descartes wrote "Cogito Ergo Sum (I think therefore I am)." I think we all agree. That is more than just anything about something.


Basic physics says something cannot give rise to nothing.
Poetically, I say when in doubt take a breath.

09-26-2009 at 07:30:02 PM

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Right, Einstein maintained that matter cannot be created nor destroyed. We are something that cannot be denied. Therefore, we are the intergalactic sentient Earth organisms that ask that the force be with us, an anything that knows something.

09-26-2009 at 09:26:29 PM

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Isn't this something! Grito, you're something else, funny stuff, lol! Holy Grail spin?

I think that the final proof for matter and energy interchangeability will go something like this: The next summit, or G20, or whatever should be held at the dead center of the Bermuda Triangle. If the politicians disappear, we'll know that they didn't matter, and that the theory is sound. If they return, we'll just have to keep trying! Lol!

I don't know about anyone knowing anything about something, or anything, for that matter. However, I do know that everyone knows something about knowing anything about nothing!

The conditioning that is the education system is just another elaborate decoy. A different question: What is worth learning? The machine that is society inherently dictates this long before one ever feels the answer, not to mention has the resources.


Light,
Stirred Draught
gulp




09-26-2009 at 10:29:48 PM

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Against the current(Space prose)




After burners flame off.

the globe below spins slowly.

I must concentrate.


No coffee for me.

It reeks here

of caffeine delirium.


I need my G.P.S.

Light feathers from squared shoulders.

An easy repair.


Gloves in hand are veined.

The gristle read in pain.

Weightless to my thoughts of view.


Marco Polo they said.

Conquistadores as a rebel yell.

Nothing goes against the grain.


Ha, ashes falling from the drain.

Zaa begins to spin

desires as colors focus bring.


Tanks to load tanks to me.

Nar a vision from a Christmas tree.

A long breath to gather out world wings.


Grito

09-29-2009 at 02:05:55 PM

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I feel insanely retarded now. Thing is, I was just in a bit of a ranting mood at the moment... I really didn't expect people to waste their time with this or to turn it into a wonderful lilttle debate against what I said.
But that's you guys.

You should all read "Xenocide."
grin

10-08-2009 at 04:32:48 AM

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I find the more I read the more I learn (obviously) whether it be small and random things, or facts and figures about big events.

For example I am and have been for some time a big fan of military books. So I have been reading them and built up a little knowledge about various military organisations and events.

10-21-2009 at 12:38:41 AM

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Maybe knowin sumtin bout anytin counts maybe it dosent wat matters is does it make me a better person? wink

10-22-2009 at 06:41:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beam

Maybe knowin sumtin bout anytin counts maybe it dosent wat matters is does it make me a better person? wink


funny thing is, what you do what what you are given or find depends on who are you when you encounter it (life altering situations included, I guess, becasue how you react is based on who you are to some extent) so wht education does to you, and how you handle it depends on what you have dome with it in the past, and what it has done to you...

so this always just points back to the earliest impressions and the whole "Nature vs. Nurture" argument....

Poetry is what gets lost in translation.

Robert Frost (1875-1963) American Poet.